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In light of recent updates: Damara's hidden agenda

I was explaining Gamzee’s chronology to a friend earlier and I came upon a realization: those Music Box Time Machines that Gamzee had when he showed up on LOCAH:

They may not be Aradia’s. It seems much more likely now that instead they’re probably Damara’s.

And frankly, this is a relief. Because if they were Aradia’s, it would mean that either Aradia was hiding an evil agenda and working with Gamzee, or that he killed her during some point in his chronology prior to his arrival on LOCAH.

Now, the reason I think they’re Damara’s is mainly because of a lot of the things she says. Many of the readers simply saw Damara as a crazed sex fiend, but she also said a lot of things about Lord English which were pretty concerning. Here are all of the relevant lines:

私は彼の魂を消費するために悪魔をもたらすでしょう。
(I’ll bring the devil to consume his soul.)

あなたは必然だけを遅らせる。
私たちの終了時間が近いです。
(You will only delay the inevitable.
The end of our time is near.)

あなたは時間の領主に挑戦します。
あなたの哀れな軍隊は失敗しなければならない。
彼はあなたの幽霊を食べるようになる。彼は現実そのものを消費するからである。
(You challenge the lord of time.
Your pathetic army must fail.
He will eat your ghost. For he consumes reality itself.) 

MEENAH: maybe i had you all wrong
DAMARA: ない。あなたはそうしなかった。(No. You did not.)

So it’s pretty clear that she works for Lord English and is fully supportive of him. She seems both fully aware of his plans and actions, and to accept them entirely. That’s a lot more than can be said for Gamzee. We don’t know what the hell is going on in his head, but I can tell you one thing: he can’t make complex plans like this. He doesn’t know shit about time shenanigans. In fact, he even explicitly stated it once.

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Now, we know the hierarchy so far: Meulin serves Kurloz (unaware of her actions), Kurloz serves Gamzee, and Gamzee serves Lord English. So where does Damara fit in? Well, let’s think about this: Gamzee and Kurloz are certainly willing to serve Lord English no questions asked. He is their Angel of Double Death, their Mirthful Messiah. He unleashed the Vast Honk of prophecy.

But why the hell would he go to them? As far as he’s concerned, they’re just two more pawns that worship him, that would follow his commands without a qualm. There are at least dozens of purplebloods. But he needs somebody more competent. Somebody who understands time shenanigans. Somebody… like The Handmaid.

After all, she’s served English before. He knows he can trust her. Or even, someone like her. Someone, perhaps, 100% genetically identical to her.

Now there’s another popular theory going around, that as soon as Openbound ends, Lord English will come along and destroy the dream bubbles and all of the Pre-Scratch trolls, barring Meenah and possibly Aranea as well. And it makes sense. Hussie needs to get rid of them somehow. And after all, he’s destroyed more than one bubble already.

But in light of what was just said, I think that Damara is far too important to be done away with just yet. And what better way to mark an important character than to have her wear the main thematic recurring colors of Homestuck:

red

and green.

Jake Pester - A6A3 Intro

Probably not going to incite any headcanons, but whatever. It’s Pester voicing time!

Jake Pester - A6A3 Intro

Jake: Myself (www.theslackerhero.tumblr.com)
Computer Messages/Jane and Editting: www.cantirockits.tumblr.com

TG: i am so pipsed about this i want to just go there and smack ur ass

DID I HEAR YOU SAY YOU WANTED TO SPANK HER YES GOODwaitwhat

/can’t read Roxy/Jane dialogue without cotton candy shipping all over the place DOT tumblr DOT com

Is Calliope and Caliborn occupying one body a symbolic callback to Gamzee's whimsical personality? Is it confirmed that he will ectobiologically create the cherub(s) (possibly using Cal? Remember Cal genes? LE has them which is why he resembles Cal)

I think that Calliope and Caliborn are definitely a strong reference to Gamzee in many ways.

Let’s start off with the more obscure references: typing color hexcodes. Caliborn’s is #323232, Karkat’s is #626262, and Calliope’s is #929292. Basically, Karkat’s typing color lies directly in the middle. If you take Calliope’s quirk (all lowercase, uppercase U) and combine it with Caliborn’s (all uppercase, lowercase u), you get karkat’s. They even emphasize *I* the same way. More importantly though, Caliborn’s blood color is exactly the same as Karkat’s, and Calliope is a lime blooded cherub. Going by the hemospectrum order, since Karkat lies between Nepeta and Sollux, it is speculated that if his blood wasn’t mutant in nature, he would be a limeblood. Of course, it’s important to note that troll lime blood is an entirely different color from Cherub lime blood, but the connection remains valid. And basically, this is just a roundabout way of saying that they bear strong relations to the closest person to Gamzee, his moirail Karkat.

Now that that’s out of the way, we can get to the more direct connections. It’s no secret at this point that Calliope and Caliborn share a body, and that Caliborn is the Lord of Time, Lord English. Their typing quirks are definitely also reminiscent of Gamzee’s alternating caps, both before or after he goes sober, though the connection is a lot clearer afterwards.

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First of all, even his phrasing here is a clear reference to two personalities in one body, but not his own. I don’t think Gamzee has a split personality, it’s just a typing quirk. But now that the cherubs have been introduced, it’s very clearly a reference to them. The first line: the lowercase, the smile, the relatively polite phrasing on all lowercase lines, is reminiscent of Calliope. On the uppercase lines, he tends to swear a lot more, and the face is just the opposite on that second line. This all clearly references Caliborn.

And honestly, this all ties into one of Homestuck’s biggest themes, which is duality. Their blood colors are red and green for a reason: it’s the most significant and recurring color combination in the comic, and represents everything from Sburb Alpha/Beta to the Time players being associated with red and the Space players being associated with green. But I’m digressing. 

Lord English, as you can see, fulfills the prophecies of the “mirthful messiahs” of Gamzee’s religion in many ways. In fact, he even unleashed a VAST HONK, and in Gamzee’s quirk no less. And let’s not forget that the puppet which was used to create English’s vessel into the universe

happens to be very important to Gamzee. In fact, he should still have that version of Lil’ Cal on him right now.

As for the rest of your question: No, it is not confirmed that he ectobiologically created the cherub(s). It’s admittedly really eerie that Lord English resembles cal so much, but remember that he wasn’t ectobiologically created. Cal was used to create Doc Scratch, who summoned Lord English into the universe through his body upon his death. After all, Lord English has a past as Caliborn. He wasn’t created then and there.

While it was an interesting theory, it’s about as plausible as the squiddles being used to create the horrorterrors: They’re just a representation of them, the horrorterrors have always existed. It’s implied there are other cherubs, so I think they’re simply an alien race that happen to exist. Of course, Gamzee could have made all of that up and put these lies in their heads. It’s not like they can leave, after all. Honestly, I have mixed feelings about the cherubs being created through ectobiology. It seems interesting, except I can’t imagine who or what would be combined to create them. I don’t like the idea of it being Jade and Karkat though.

The part of the theory you’re referring to which I do fully agree with is that Gamzee somehow raised the cherubs. After all, that does appear to be the trolls’ meteor and lab that they’re living in. And Gamzee has Music Box Time Machines. All of these connections to Gamzee could have been caused by himself, through raising them. He could very well have created the basis for his own religion.

It makes sense that such a crazy motherfucker would raise a creature with a split personality. And after all, who else would love more to name two little alien babies after their favorite puppet?

The Act and Intermission storylines are intersecting far more than they ever have before

Hey, on the Act 6 Act 3 flash, is anyone else having trouble getting into the mausoleum?

I go there to send Lil’ Seb down the hole, and it just keeps saying I need a “nimble little helper.” But I can’t send Seb for some reason. DX

Any advice?

Hnng I’m stuuuuck on A6A3 I need one more skull and I released a seed pod but I don’t know what to do now I’ve tried literally everything I can think of and nothing >8,(

What is your favorite theory of all theories? And I mean all the theories. All of them.

My favorite theories revolve around the Cherubs.

I won’t get into the theories about their session, as it happens to be pattern-breaking in more ways than I could’ve imagined, but I will say one thing about [S] Caliborn: Enter. I believe, as do many, that the kernelsprite was actually two separate ones, Calliope’s and Caliborn’s, emerging from the Cruxtruder simultaneously. It would explain perfectly the fact that it was flashing in two different colors, and why it collapsed into a black hole. Two kernelsprites simultaneously trying to prototype each other would cause quite the “divide by zero” error. Interestingly, unlike Karkat’s it was not in the Cherubs’ typing colors, but their blood colors. To me this supports the theory more, as Hussie would’ve used the red and green over two shades of gray to make it clearer that it was two kernelsprites in one.

Probably my favorite theory right now is that Calliope’s dream self is a troll. It certainly has its support: For one thing, we haven’t seen her dream self’s face, and while the blood would appear to be Cherub lime as opposed to Troll lime, it was in a darkened room, so we have no real gauge here. More importantly, all the other space players have become what they always wanted to be: Jade became anthromorphic, and Kanaya awoke as a Rainbow Drinker. We don’t know if Porrim wanted to be a Rainbow Drinker, but she is one. Calliope is a space player, and has always dreamed of being a troll.

There is one more theory that, albeit far-fetched, is interesting: Lord English hasn’t achieved god tier, but he will be soon. The part indicating that he hasn’t reached god tier yet is that he possesses the same injuries as Caliborn (they are confirmed to be one and the same). When you reach god tier, your injuries are supposed to heal. As for “he will be soon”: He is the Lord of Time. In [S] Caliborn: Enter, he landed in front of a Time quest bed. He proceeded to unleash a massive attack, which appeared to incinerate him as well as his targets. If he did in fact die and land on his quest bed, that would mean he would rise up to god tier. We haven’t seen him since. The strongest points against this theory are that he’s supposed to be invincible in his current form, and thus couldn’t die, and also it’s highly unlikely he landed on the quest bed before it became incinerated along with everything else in the dream bubble, not to even speak of the question of whether or not a dream bubble quest bed would serve the same purpose. Regardless, the theory is intriguing.

  • this morning
  • homestuck: Jane: Say hello to your new guide.
  • me: WOAH
  • me: WOAH THAT IS SOME SHIT
  • me: WOW
  • mom: what are you looking at
  • me:
  • me: *screams a little with my mouth closed*
  • mom:
  • mom: alright

i can’t find the last skull somebody help me

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