Some instant memories from Tuesdays’s world premiere of Vans’ Propeller at the Orpheum theater in downtown Los Angeles. Wish these guys a Bon voyage as they embark on their week long premiere world tour beginning tonight in Melbourne, Australia at the Cinema Nova. Check VansPropeller.com for the full list of premiere tour dates and to find a screening near you.
los creadores de la zapatilla Vans son gente pro-nazi, principalmente por los Estados Unidos.
Se basan en que en la suela de la zapatilla hay una parte con la forma de estrellas de David ( símbolo judío por excelencia) y supuestamente sus creadores las colocaron ahí para poder pisotear a los judíos.
presten atención en la suela…si pueden pisar en arena con estas zapatillas se puede ver claramente.
- En el paquete hay escrito KKK, con una K en la parte frontal, otra en la trasera y en la parte de abajo. Además al mirar algunas letras y las otras al trasluz se puede leer OroblJew, que viene a ser Horrible Jew (horrible judío). Es un poco rebuscado…
En la parte de arriba está escrito Marlboro en blanco y en la parte de abajo en negro (blanco arriba y negro abajo).
“It’s the way it’s pressed. It’s all initially mixed the same way, with the certain amount of natural and synthetic rubber compounds, but it’s the heating process and pressure when they force it through those molds.
“A molded cupsole will be heated and pressed a lot hotter and quicker. They have these little sheets of rubber, back the appropriate amount into a mold, feed it into a machine, and then it’s clamped tight, treated to pressure and heat. It takes about 90 seconds, depending on the factory and their preferences.
“For vulcanized, they take that same initial rubber while it’s still soft and extrude it through these roller molds to make these strips for the wrap. That gets applied while it’s still gummy and very soft. The entire shoe is put inside an oven and cooked at a less hot temperature than the cupsole and for a longer time period. The times vary from brand to brand. Vans, Converse, and other vulc brands are all within the same range.
“It’s essentially just baking—a cupsole is like flash-frying something in a microwave, and a vulcanized sole is like baking a cake, almost.
“It all comes down to preference. Some kids want to skate cupsole because they think it will last longer and they want to jump down stuff. Other kids will jump down bigger things and wear vulc. It’s all about what you want to feel under your foot.”
2. The Real Differences Between Rubbers
“Every company has a different development time. They’re always tinkering around with many things—rubber compounds included—but a lot of that comes down to what happens on a factory level, and a lot of brands share factories, especially in the skate world.
“A lot of factories make the same shoes for Supra, the Sole Tech brands, DVS, and Lakai, so that’s one thing that surprised me. I don’t know if they can control keeping their compounds separate when the same factory is making all these different brands. It’s a lot easier from a production standpoint to stick with one formula and do it across everything. Every time they have to switch their process, it slows down production. In those cases, it really comes down to the design in the tread pattern, the sidewall pipes that improve flex or feel, even the way you design the mold and how they relate to the actual thickness of the sole.”
3. Why Shoes Get Slimmer as Skating Gets Gnarlier
“It goes back to trends in general. In the late ‘90s and early 2000s, skate shoes became this unique mainstream product—this bulky, puffy thing that really spoke to all mainstream use. It was about not wearing your parents’ brand of shoes or looking like an adult. Instead you stood out by wearing those puffy, somewhat fun shoes.
“As trends changed, things started to slim down and become more normal—it was a real trend shift. Even now, it goes back to just preference. Everyone is influenced by the overall trend of wearing classic styles—simple, iconic designs. You see them being worn around the world. Skateboarders aren’t immune to those huge cultural trends that you see everywhere.”
4. Hightops vs. Lowtops
“It’s more about what you feel comfortable in. Also, skateboarders are very superstitious, where if they have had ankle problems in the past, they might want to skate a hightop for that perceived support. To make an impact, you need a really rigid hightop, probably a lot higher than most skate hightops that are out—almost like an ankle brace.
“A lot of people will wear an ankle brace, even with a hightop. A hightop will protect your ankles from shark bites, though—when a board shoots out and hits your ankle. It’s also about how you wear your pants, your socks, and how you want everything to actually look.”
5. How Material Choices Really Affect Your Shoes
“I’ll start with suede and a proper full grain leather. That stuff is obviously natural material and has been the long-standing preference for skateboarders because of the combination of durability, breaking in quickly. However, since it’s a natural material, it might stretch out further than you want it and your shoes might bag out or blow out, depending on how long you wear them.
“There’s PU (polyurethane)-coated leathers, where they split a thick hide in half. Those will retain their shape a little bit longer, but they have this plastic coating made of polyurethane over the top of it. Back in the early 2000s, when you’d see those puffy, white leather skate shoes that with a shiny finish, that’s an example of PU leather. It’s super durable for an everyday shoe that you’re just walking around in, but for skating they don’t have the same feel as a suede.
“A full-grain leather—the way they treat that stuff, you get a nice finish. There’s tumbled effects and nice highs and lows in the color of the leather, but that’s comes at a price—it breaks down almost as quickly as suede, which is why suede remains king in that world. Kids don’t really want to pay for the look of that nice leather when it’s going to break down faster.
“People like canvas as well, but depending on much you skate and how fast you put a hole in your shoes, you could go through a pair pretty quickly. The standard criss-cross weave of canvas does manage to keep its shape a lot longer and blow out less than suede.
“We’ve been using this stuff we call Duracap. It’s a version of the vulcanized rubber, but we bond it to the backside of the canvas. When you skate it, you’ll go through the canvas quickly, but then you have the Duracap rubber behind it. They press it into the canvas so it really seeps into the fibers a little bit, so you’ll get less of the fraying and the canvas won’t unravel. The Chima Ferguson model was the first shoe we used it on, but we’re starting to do it on almost everything and on the backside of some suede vamps as well. It not only lasts longer, but really keeps the shape of the toe a bit longer.”
6. What Design Means for Balance
“There’s different heights that companies use. We’re on the flatter side, as far as the heel-to-toe position. It’s called it the pitch—the difference between the height of the toe and height of the heel. If you think of a traditional running shoe, not any of the new barefoot running trends, usually that heel-to-toe ratio is a lot bigger. For runners it makes sense because it’s all about your heel strike—the way you run and your heel hits first before you roll into your toe. It’s more static than skateboarding because you’re running in one direction and not pivoting around as much as basketball or skating.
“In skating, you want a closer combination of that, depending on how you set up for tricks, just so you have a little bit more of a consistent feel.”
7. Something That Made Skate Shoes a Lot Better
“I would say polyurethane sock liners. The way we use that compound is to create a removable sockliner. Most of the Vans Pro Skate shoes that we make have that. We’ve been using them for almost 10 years, and that stuff doesn’t break down the other insole materials would. EVA (ethylene vinyl acetate) is used quite a bit—that’s the cheaper end of stuff.
“Now there’s a blow-molded EVA that a lot of the running shoe companies use, like for Nike’s Lunarlon. It’s still from that EVA family, so the foam will degrade quicker, whereas PU is a poured material that starts as a liquid and is poured into a mold the way a cupsole would be, so you can pick it in all different durometers—harder and softer—and it degrades very little.
“When Vans first started using it, I wasn’t working here yet and remember buying the Syndicate Half Cabs and really being psyched on that insole. I’d take a butter knife to rip out the insoles of new shoes and continuing to use the old Half Cab sockliner. That’s a big one because it’s pretty consistent feel and it doesn’t change the posture as the foam degrades. The heights maintain the same thickness.”
8. The Tongue Debate
“A puffy tongue versus a slimmer tongue is really just targeting a different consumer. Some people like that puffy shoe; maybe they’re reminiscing about early 2000s and that ‘golden age’ of skate shoes. The Chima’s tongue is a little puffier, but that was his request because that’s what he specifically liked.
“When you have extra foam foam on the top of your foot, it’s really not doing much or affecting durability, as you’re not having much contact with the griptape, and it has no impact on cushioning a landing. Depending on how tight you tie your laces, it might take a little pressure off your laces due to the cushioning the foam is offering. Honestly, I think all of that is aesthetics.”
You don’t got to go home but you can’t stay here. Gil’s birthday party is a wrap. We ask you to drive carefully and perhaps stop by your local 24-hour skateshop and pick up a pair of one of the new colors of Mid-Gils.