Cont: 3. I feel like stiles has probably always wanted to be skilled at lacrosse, as being popular was always super important to him and the only reason he even played. so if he had this power that aloud him to gain skill by will, whether conscious or not, wouldn’t he have always been talented? also why would he only make himself good for ONE big game, and then continue to suck for numerous other games or tryouts that were important? people have good days, totally plausible he just got lucky.
Cont: 4. alright alright alright, but also probably convenience of plot. The Teen Wolf writers use deus ex machine and convenience of plot to justify some pretty ridiculous things. this show has basically gotten to the point of complete inconsistency, so we have to consider that some things were just lazy writing and directing.
cont: 5. convenience of plot. 6. convenience of plot. 7. it took stiles and three other people HOURS to fix that jeep. he was clearly struggling the whole time, and I don’t care what the comedic dialogue was trying to convey; there is no way stiles has no clue how to fix his PRIDE and JOY, zero chance that that thing hasn’t broken down before, requiring him to fix it, and not a shot in hell that the TOWN SHERIFF would let he son get a car without teaching him how to take care of it
Cont: and 8. convenience of plot. there is a chance these all point to stiles being supernatural , but more likely than not, these are just the result of lazy writers who’s fans put more thought into their show then them. Also, about the gunshot: ok if it was shot from stiles side, then how did his face get covered in blood? that kind of blood splatter pattern is nearly impossible. I would love to keep these metas going, I hope I don’t seem like im ragging. i’d love to know what you think.
First of all thanks for the long ask :) Just a tip - if you have theories or long questions you can also use the submit option - that way you don’t have to break it up into many asks.
I gather from this that you’ve been reading one of my Stiles is Something posts. The problem is i don’t know which one - i’ve made lots and i’ve made more than one list of “Impossible things” as well - some more elaborate than others. But i’ll try to respond as best as i can.
1st bullet: ok this one actually COULD be something, but the way it was set up didn’t feel like they were trying to lean towards stiles being supernatural.
I assume you mean the shooting of the chemist. Unless Jeff Davis explicitly tells us that agent McCall did shoot him, i will never abandon my theory that Stiles was behind that. Never! This was my original post on the subject. I knew the minute it happened there was more to that scene and when 4x08 rolled around the missing pieces fell into my lap.
you also asked: if it was shot from stiles side, then how did his face get covered in blood? that kind of blood splatter pattern is nearly impossible.
Firstly go back and read this meta post.
This has all the characteristics of an entry wound - firstly because of the size - it’s quite small - the exit wound is usually much larger and wider, and also notice the black tinge around it - that is gun powder residue. You would not find that on an exit wound - it’s from the gun after all - if agent mccall actually shot, he would have it all over his hands and the area around this wound would be “clean”.
And with regards to blood spatter - with a close range head shot like this there will be blood spatter - both back spatter and forwards spatter.
With the bullet coming from Stiles’ end he would receive the back spatter - not as much as forward spatter, but still enough blood to cover his face like it did - especially with how close he was standing. So i don’t really see this as something that ruins the theory. Actually if it was forward spatter i would think it’d be much much more!
The rest of my evidence is in the post i linked to earlier :)
2. yeeeaaah but like, humans are capable of doing some pretty incredible things to stay alive
I’m thinking maybe you’re refering to the pool scene? And yes, this could just be human stiles holding up the much heavier derek, both wearing clothes and shoes, for several hours while treading water. It could happen - but it’s unlikely.If it was just Stiles or both could move freely I’d agree with you.
Firstly they are both wearing clothes and shoes that makes it heavier and will make Stiles have to use extra muscle power to keep them afloat. Derek is also bigger with lots of muscle - muscle is heavier than fat and a toned and muscled person will have more trouble staying afloat. If he’d been a flabby guy, the extra fat would help them but his alpha bulk is doing Stiles no favors. If it was just Stiles on his own he could probably stay there for hours and hours alternating between treading water, swimming around and floating on his back. But with Derek as added dead weight he has to work non stop to keep them floating. I’ve been googling and reading a lot of comments from people involved with swimming and/or scuba diving where treading water is a requirement, and they report people start fatiguing after just 10 minutes and how an hour is almost impossible. Imagine treading water for two! Here’s an enlightening forum thread
So while Stiles holding up Derek for two hours plus with clothes and shoes isn’t stricktly impossible it’s certainly extremely impressive, and also rather improbable.
The lacrosse thing - oh yes, i do think Stiles probably wants to be good at lacrosse. And i’ll admit that him coming into that game and being good doesn’t need to be proof of his “somethingness” - but one theory i and many have is that Stiles’ abilities are tied to his belief - if he believes he can do stuff, he can. Like with stretching the mountain ash. And it wasn’t until Lydia showed signs of believing in him during that game that Stiles started to do the same. This could just be plain old normal confidence boost or something more. It’s open to interpretation anyway, like most in Teen wolf :) And you ask why just this game and not after? Like i said - belief - Stiles clearly thinks he’s crap at lacrosse - he constantly talks about him warming the bench, he doesn’t seemt o expect to be called to the field - he’s very surprised when Finstock picks him. At the time in season 2 I don’t think Stiles knew he had any abilities at all, so he probably just thought it was a fluke - his 15 minutes of Lacrosse fame or something.
And i actually disagree with you - being popular isn’t really something we’ve heard stiles say he wants. That’s Scott. Scott often complains about it especially in season 1 and he also brings it up in 3x06 in the scene when stiles talks him down from setting fire to himself. Stiles does mention warming the bench, he never expects to play and is super excited when he does make first line, but doesn’t really complain when he don’t. He does mention in an offhand kind of comment to scott in 1x01 that being friends with him is dragging Stiles down to being nerdy, but he doesn’t seem too concerned about it. stiles wants lydia, he wants sex and he wants to play lacrosse yes, but the two first is understandable and the last i think is more because he knows it will please his dad.
4.-6. and 8. you claim convience of plot. I have no idea what points your refering to unless you provide me with a link to the post in question. But on a general note I find that very little in teen wolf is just convience of plot.
7. it took stiles and three other people HOURS to fix that jeep.
You’re not the first to tell me it is silly to count this as a sign of his somethingness but i disagree. Go back and watch the scenes again - the three other people, Lydia, Malia and Kira didn’t help at all. Lydia held a flashlight but other than that it’s just Stiles tinkering around. And he’s flustered, frustrated and frantic, rooting around and pulling out parts like he has no idea what he’s doing. At one point he even hands Lydia one part and she asks what it is - he replies he doesn’t know but hopes it’s not important. Which tells me that it is.
This isn’t the best cap of the part he’s handing over but it’s roundish and has some wires sticking out. I’m no mechanic at all but i’ve been googling Jeep parts (Stiles’ jeep is a CJ5 apparantly) and this seems to sort of fit the bill - its a pickup coil which is part of the ignition. Basically if you remove this the Jeep won’t start at all (x) - so yes, important.
you said: there is no way stiles has no clue how to fix his PRIDE and JOY, zero chance that that thing hasn’t broken down before, requiring him to fix it, and not a shot in hell that the TOWN SHERIFF would let he son get a car without teaching him how to take care of it
This might be true - but we’ve got no clues to support this aside from the fact that the jeep is Stiles’ pride and joy, he even tells Lydia so in the scene in 4x01 - (I’ll never abandon this jeep, never) - so that part i agree with. Many has speculated it might be because it was his mom’s car but we don’t know that either.
What the sheriff would and wouldn’t do we have no idea - this is all just headcanon as far as i can tell. What I do know is that when Erica removed a part from his car and smacked him in the face with it (and without him getting a black eye or any visible bruising btw - talk about fast healing!)
The very next episode (2x04) Stiles is at the mechanic to get it fixed. So apparantly not skilled enough to fix it himself.
Back to the scene in the desert in 4x01 - it served several purposes
- Allowing Scott and Braeden to continue on their own.
- For the rest to realize something else was out there, they weren’t alone.
- For Malia to run off, something that gave us the “I’d never abandon you speech” later
- comic relief
- further evidence of lydia and stiles’ friendship - they bicker like siblings/friends, no hint of romance
They could’ve achieved all this with a broken down jeep without making stiles appear unskilled and frustrated like he didn’t know what he was doing. Even a skilled mechanic could have trouble - how do you find parts in the middle of nowhere for instance - it could be a shining MacGyver moment where he made it all work with one of Lydia’s hair pins some wires and a piece of gum. Instead we see him struggle and indicate he has no clue what he’s doing only to turn on a dime and fix it in no time when darkness was creeping in and Malia came back with a cut from so unknown dangerous monster.
you said: “more likely than not, these are just the result of lazy writers who’s fans put more thought into their show then them” - and “The Teen Wolf writers use deus ex machine and convenience of plot to justify some pretty ridiculous things. this show has basically gotten to the point of complete inconsistency, so we have to consider that some things were just lazy writing and directing.”
I’m getting a bit sick and tired of the “lazy writers” and “bad writing” thing that a large part of the fandom seem to have adopted as their new mantra. It’s perfectly okay to not agree with the writing. It’s also perfectly okay to not like it, to be frustrated by it. But I’m feeling pretty confident when i say that Teen Wolf does not suffer from “lazy writers” - quite the opposite actually. That does not mean that they’re perfect - of course they aren’t. There will be plot holes and some inconsistencies - please point me to a tv show that doesn’t have this. I’v recently started a rewatch and you can track my little musings and finidings here. After just four episodes i’m blown away by the attention to detail, the amount of hints and foreshadowing that is there to find if you look closely. But this requires that you’re willing to spend a bit more time with it - to question and analyze. Teen Wolf is an open text which means that there isn’t one truth - you can interpret stuff differently and neither will necessarily be wrong.