theaussielemming replied to your post: like dont get me wrong i love discussi…
I can still ship them right? YOU CANT TAKE AWAY MY SHIP!!! ; ;
I’m being flippant because literally a half an hour ago I just finished both papers and I’ve been knee deep in poetry & historicism for weeks. But, don’t misunderstand me – I do really love Hades & Persephone. I love Death and the Maiden motifs a lot (and I am critical to readings that Death and the Maiden motifs are inherently a rape narrative because frankly dats a lot of bullshit). In my top five favorite poems, Louise Gluck takes two spots with her Hades & Persephone poems. A Myth of Innocence and A Myth of Devotion. I absolutely want to get lines from the latter poem tattooed on me, because that poem has meant so much to me for years.
“Doesn’t everyone want to feel in the night
the beloved body, compass, polestar,
to hear the quiet breathing that says
I am alive, that means also
you are alive, because you hear me,
you are here with me. And when one turns,
the other turns—“
Is one of the most beautiful stanzas I’ve ever read anywhere.
“He wants to say I love you, nothing can hurt you
but he thinks
this is a lie, so he says in the end
you’re dead, nothing can hurt you
which seems to him
a more promising beginning, more true.”
Not only did that sucker punch me in the chest when I first read it, it came at a very troubled time in my life and it helped me heal.There’s so much to this poem (and to the beautiful A Myth of Innocence) and yet everyone wants to sum up the origin / story of Persephone & Hades as: it was consensual, it was a happy marriage. People have marked her story as appropriate and refashioned it in our imagination as “good” after centuries of holding onto the rape narrative not for anything but “it was consensual, it was a good marriage.” That is a disservice to the story, and frankly, to anyone who reads it.
Gluck doesn’t seek to give us answers about the rights and wrongs of Hades and Persephone. It’s a problematic story whether or not you acknowledge the rape myth that came later. He abducted her. We should not shy away from this – we should embrace it with the story rather than trying to rewrite it as politically correct and wholly bland. However, all myths are problematic. That isn’t to say we excuse them all as just problematic and therefore okay, but we should be able to say “this is a story with themes we can talk about, without making a general sweeping statement as to whether it’s entirely good or entirely bad.”
That’s my problem with tumblr’s take. It wants to strip down the story into some acceptable (ie: trendy at the moment) version that doesn’t actually say anything new. So I absolutely do not judge you or anyone for liking the myth. I would be a hypocrite if I did (I have Hades and Persephone tags on my blog, for instance. My 8tracks favorites are full of Hades & Persephone mixes).