mnot

  • what she says:i'm fin- actually screw that i'm not fine. the gintama anime is coming back and I' MNOT FKING FINE. IW ANT TO PUNCH A WALL. I WANT TO PUNCH TEN WALLS I'M SO HAPPY. I AM MO RE ALIVE NOW THAN EVER I;M S OO SO HPAPY.

siuilaruin replied to your post:

Yah, I was never okay with that. Especially because its supposed to be some kind of allegory or prediction for the “obesity epidemic” nonsense that is going on right now.

ubernutella replied to your post:

it’s really blatant

It made me really sad, because Pixar is usually one of the better major media companies out there when it comes to this sort of representation. I hope there was enough of an outcry about it that they won’t do anything like that again.

mnot replied to your post:

I thought the film was less fatphobic and moreso trying to mock extreme laziness and our developing culture of passivity and neglect of active and intelligent thought. To me, it was more actively choosing stupidity = bad, rather than being fat = bad.

So, the problem is that the movie explicitly links fatness with laziness. Presenting laziness (and passivity and neglect of active/intelligent thought) in a negative light isn’t inherently awful, but the movie chooses a particular body shape and size to represent that laziness, and that’s a crude stereotype. In reality, being lazy doesn’t make you fat, and being fat isn’t a sign that someone is lazy. The people in Wall-E could still lounge around in motorchairs all day, drinking cupcakes-in-a-cup and refusing to question the received wisdom about their lives, without them all being fat. Instead the producers chose to correlate fatness with that slew of negative traits which in no way reflect the behavior of actual fat people. That’s the issue here.

Remember in the first Matrix movie, when Neo first gets rescued and he can’t move his muscles because his body is so atrophied from disuse? Wall-E could easily have presented some people with his kind of body shape, rather than having them all be fat. Instead, they sent a message to audiences (whether intentionally or not) that laziness makes you fat and that all fat people are lazy. For a movie targeted at young people who are just learning how to navigate their social circles and interact with people who are different than them, that’s a really shitty message to send.

Edited to add: Not to mention the possible self-image issues for audience members, particularly children, who fit that body shape themselves!

OH MY GOD I’M GOING TO MISS MY DRUNK GIRAFFE SO MUCH AND IN FIVE MONTHS TIME THERE WILL BE NO MORE RAGGEDY DOCTOR OKAY NO MORE BOWTIES OR JAMMIE DODGERS OR FEZZES AND NO MORE FLOPPY FRINGE AND THE TWEED AND THOSE DAMN BOOTS

NO MORE BABY ELEVEN

MY DOCTOR IS LEAVING AND IT’S LIKE ENDING A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP THAT I NEVER HAD OKAY SO SHUT THE HELL UP AND LET THIS FANDOM HAVE IT’S MOMENT TO BE EMOTIONAL

mnot replied to your post:

Yeah, you’re right, lazy does not automatically equal fat, by any means, to me, the extremity of of the whole scenario made it feel separate - but you’re right, it’s creeping me out a little that it was an assumption I so easily made :/

Ruining people’s enjoyment of harmless fun is one of my specialties. =P But yeah, it’s a shame because it really was such a good movie besides this issue.