The Flash is just not a good show for Irish West, the back flipping being done to keep Iris in the dark, the men in her life sabotaging her career, Joe infantilizing Iris, them taking her agency.
What’s gonna happen when she finds out the truth?
Are the writers gonna have Iris forgive and forget or is she gonna have the right to be justifiably angry or is Barry gonna go back in time, screw everything up, and when everything is back to normal she’s past what these three men in her life did to her, b/c the event Barry caused was a bigger issue, and it basically taught her not to “sweat the small stuff”.
How is it that the big loves of Barry and Oliver’s lives (whether it was endgame or not), are treated so horrendously by the writers and yet characters like Felicity and Caitlin are written better in comparison?
So you know how to write females characters, but you need to treat at least one female character on each show like trash, and those happen to be the female characters who have had actual impact on Barry and Oliver’s history in the comics.
I’m kind of scared of the Arrow and the Flash writers having the opportunity to do a Vixen live-action series if it should ever happen. If they can’t even appropriately write two strong female characters who have so much comic history to pull from and use to their hearts content, and yet still, they somehow turn them into the two most hated female characters in the dccwverse, what would become of Vixen in their hands…
Most of the hate for Laurel, and half of the hate for Iris is stemming from the fandom drinking the kool-aid that these writers are serving out, and what I mean by that is, these writers are giving little thought to Iris and Laurel, and the fans see that and take on that attitude unconsciously or consciously, by dismissing these two women’s pov.
And then when the writers feel like it, that’s when they decide to give these characters their attention, and sucks to say, but it’s not working with Laurel, and it’s not gonna work with Iris. Maybe if Laurel weren’t a women, and maybe if Iris was a man and wasn’t black, fandom wouldn’t hold grudges.
The thought of these people being behind a possible Vixen live-action series, when they treat the female characters who actually have pages upon pages of comic book of history like shit. Where would the confidence I should have in these writers come from? Vixen/Mari is a black female, so she has 2 strikes against her for her gender and her race, and I’d be damn if these writers ever made Vixen, a female character who is important to dc history a hated character on her own show, whilst the white main characters are propped and celebrated more than her.
No these writers need to do better and be better.
I don’t care if I’m being prematurely angry about the Iris situation, they could have big plans on why she’s gonna be the last to know Barry’s secret or that she already knew, and it wouldn’t change what these men in her life have done to her, it wouldn’t change the fact that Joe treats Iris likes she’s two, and b/c he treats her like a child, it was one of the reasons Iris couldn’t even become a cop.
Joe is a better father to Barry than to Iris, Joe nurtures Barry, while he deprives Iris, cause all this over protectiveness that the writers think is cute, puts limits on Iris, she can’t fully grow if she doesn’t experience and learn, and make mistakes. We’re lucky Iris has found passion in journalism; in another life her passion could have been being a cop, but b/c of her father preventing her, the jobs she could have had later on would never have made her feel fulfilled in that aspect of her life.
Barry and and Eddie are on my shit list and Joe has been there since episode one.
Do better writers.
Edit: let me clarify what I mean when I say Felicity and Caitlin are better written.
I’m kind of wondering how people are not seeing that I mean better written in loose form i.e shallow. Copy and editing from a previous response.
When I say “better written”, I’m using it in a loose term, which means I’m not talking about what Caitlin’s contributed to a storyline, or what she did or said in a storyline, or what she contributes to the overall narrative. When I say “better written” I mean in a shallow, hollow form, something at face value i.e screen time, and how how that screen time gives off the illusion she’s better written.