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"Are we out of the woods yet? Are we in the clear yet?" 

When “Out of the Woods” was released early, my friend polaroidsinscreamingcolor wanted to do a photo-shoot related to the song. Obviously I freaked and said yes, because who doesn’t want to do a shoot based on a taylorswift song with their best friend?!

Photos by: Christina Baer 
Model: Laci Turfitt

That’s why I like working with Taylor or Sara Bareilles or Tegan and Sara — where you’re just in the room, talking about what stuff is going to feel like and sound like, and working from that perspective. It’s not any of this bullshit of, ‘Let’s write a hit Katy Perry song.’
—  Jack Antonoff on participating in some impersonal writing camps for artists such as Rihanna, Antonoff swore off sessions where he couldn’t work face-to-face with the artist. (x)

She’s [Taylor] very natural — when she gets an idea, it just happens very quickly. I would send her these tracks, and when an idea would happen, we’d be 5000 miles [apart] or whatever but she would start emailing me these voice notes like crazy and it would just be happening so quickly that there’d be this excitement.

There’s a frantic feeling in the song. What’s interesting about ‘Out Of The Woods’ is that it doesn’t really let up. It starts with a pretty big anthemic vocal sample that’s me, and then there’s a drum sample that kicks in that’s kind of huge, and then you don’t really know how you’re going to get any bigger but then the chorus hits and it just explodes even larger. And then the bridge hits, and it gets even more huge.

When I was working on the track, I was thinking a lot about My Morning Jacket and how everything they do, every sound is louder than the last, and somehow it feels like everything is just fucking massive. And that’s the feeling that I went for. It started out big, and then I think the obvious move would have been to do a down chorus, but the idea was to keep pushing.

This song means a great deal to me. On a production level, on a writing level, Taylor’s lyrics and her melodies — there’s something very important about this song.

—  Jack Anotonoff on working on ‘Out Of The Woods.’ (x)

We were hanging out at her house in Rhode Island and we were talking about John Hughes movies, and a lot of the music that inspired [them], and just this general culture of sound in that time period that was really larger-than-life in an anthemic, positive way. These songs could be at the end of films that were really, really beautiful and said a lot.”

The friendship blossomed into a collaboration when Antonoff sent Swift a track that he had been working on, and she begged him to send the demo her way. “That actually ended up being a song called ‘I Wish You Would’ which is going to be on her album. We first worked on that song together and realized we kind of have a good thing, and the next thing we did was ‘Sweeter Than Fiction’ which was on the [‘One Chance’] soundtrack, and after that we did ‘Out Of The Woods’ and another song called ‘You Were In Love.’ So ‘Out Of The Woods’ was the third thing we worked on together, and probably the easiest. I sent her the track for it, and she sent back a voice note with the verse and chorus in what felt like five seconds. And it was just perfect. It’s eery how similar it is to what the final product is.

—  Jack Antonoff on collaborating with Taylor on Out Of The Woods, I Wish You Would, You Were In Love, and Sweeter Than Fiction. (x)