She’s [Taylor] very natural — when she gets an idea, it just happens very quickly. I would send her these tracks, and when an idea would happen, we’d be 5000 miles [apart] or whatever but she would start emailing me these voice notes like crazy and it would just be happening so quickly that there’d be this excitement.
There’s a frantic feeling in the song. What’s interesting about ‘Out Of The Woods’ is that it doesn’t really let up. It starts with a pretty big anthemic vocal sample that’s me, and then there’s a drum sample that kicks in that’s kind of huge, and then you don’t really know how you’re going to get any bigger but then the chorus hits and it just explodes even larger. And then the bridge hits, and it gets even more huge.
When I was working on the track, I was thinking a lot about My Morning Jacket and how everything they do, every sound is louder than the last, and somehow it feels like everything is just fucking massive. And that’s the feeling that I went for. It started out big, and then I think the obvious move would have been to do a down chorus, but the idea was to keep pushing.
This song means a great deal to me. On a production level, on a writing level, Taylor’s lyrics and her melodies — there’s something very important about this song.
Jack Anotonoff on working on ‘Out Of The Woods.’ (x