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anonymous said:

I'm definitely not saying you're wrong about the whitewashing, but there still are other colour changes (the smuppet on Dave's shoulder, the blue on Equis's symbol/Nepeta's claws, all blue on John, Feferi's skirt, Terezi's cane), so I wouldn't say that John's skin was the only thing.

Ah, that’s true! There are a couple of other differences. (For the most part I was just checking larger blocks of colour and the characters’ skin tones). But I just really don’t like the excuse that there’s some kind of printing restriction that required them to go lighter, you know?

countsassmaster said:

i have some input for you on the whole whitewashing thing. the screen shot you took is off of a digital example, and chances are that johns skin looks lighter on the actual SHIRTS is because of printing, you do realize that sometimes things print out different then they originally were designed right? printing sucks, especially on clothing. the tone difference really isn't as huge as you'r making it out to be, and for what reason would they have to whitewash ONE character????

i’ve gone over the printing thing so many times i’m not going to bother

but the reason only one of them was white-washed was because there’s only one that had a non-white skin tone to begin with!

and the tone difference is huge, and a huge deal. had they kept the original (or, hell, edited it in such a way that at least made him look different from the other kids) there would be no mistaking john for white in the printed version

which is the whole problem here. he very clearly wasn’t supposed to look white but now he does

anonymous said:

(Same from before) It looks like they may have just used Jade's skin colour on John. If I had to take a guess I'd say it was cheaper to print it like that. Still doesn't mean they should have done it, but yeah.

Possibly, but again, there are a lot of other colours on the shirt and Hot Topic isn’t exactly a small brand who needs to cut corners for cost. Even if that were the reason, it would have been near as simple to reverse it and make Jade’s skin darker - but, I mean, one of the other shitty things about this is that they altered that artist’s work at all.

anonymous said:

are you color blind because legitimately in two of those pictures it looked exactly the same to me. And dude, you're probably one of the reasons that a lot of people say that you guys make everything about race, because you are.

w ow. way to use a disability as an insult. good job

also wtf? “making everything about race”????? this just in, calling out racism is apparently excessive and we should tone it down

fucking incredible lmao

octapocalypse said:

Yeah, I mean Im going with white washing on this one, hot topic has a history of doing shitty stuff like that but I guess I can think of another reason but I doubt its any good. I know when my friend was screen printing a shirt for me the green came out much lighter then it was supposed to be and she had to adjust the colours on the actual picture to get it right. This is hardly a good argument though since im sure they have better equipment then us not to mention it would have affected more

then just johns skin tone

Yep, exactly. If some kind of ‘printing restriction’ really is to blame, then it’s just sheer laziness and bad form to fuck it up this much - or to accept a design with so many colours in the first place (even though it’s a really cute design and the artist 100% deserved that win).

But I recall hearing loads of things about Hot Topic being shitty (especially in regards to art theft, which if they altered the design without permission, this very well may be), so I can’t say I’m surprised - just mad, and hoping that everyone else will be mad too.

anonymous said:

i'm not here to try to attack you but that isn't white washing. They made all of the colors different because it would cost a whole lot of money to print that shit.

once again, even if this is the case, “making the colours different” didn’t have to mean “making skin lighter” - and since this design was Hot Topic’s pick, if they knew they would have parameters regarding colours for printing, they should have chosen something else, or specified it in the contest.

instead, they took a lovely piece of art that someone drew for the contest - practically for free - and edited it (for whatever reason, but it’s undeniable that the result is white-washing and poc erasing, because anyone taking a look at it now would assume outright that those 4 kids were all meant to be white).

anonymous said:

Yeah I wish they'd have reversed it. Either way, here's hoping if they get enough feedback they'll make sure the next printing has the right colours and they'll cycle those into stock. (If they have contact info it might be good to put on your post!)

I want to hope that too (but I still feel like it’s less of a printing thing and more of a big fuck you), though we’ll see how closely they’re willing to listen.

(I’ll look around for it, though I imagine if there’s any at all, it’ll be easy enough to find.)

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