The World of Ice and Fire | “But Mors Martell, the Lord of Sunspear, saw in the newcomers an opportunity … and if the singers can be believed, his lordship also lost his heart to Nymeria, the fierce and beautiful warrior queen who had led her people across the world to keep them free.”

roseswillcutyou said:


  • 2-4 songs that are probably on their iPod: most people headcanon jon as being into metal but I’m pretty sure he’s just got a lot of death cab and devotchka and lykke li going on
  • the one place they sometimes end up falling asleep — where they’re not supposed to: in the shower. standing up. ygritte would be annoyed at the enormous waste of water if it wasn’t so damn endearing
  • the game they’d destroy everyone else at: teen!jon slayed at magic: the gathering and could definitely still do it
  • the emoticon they’d use most often: not really his thing tbqh
  • what they act like when they haven’t had enough sleep: like someone hit him over the head with a sack of bricks. there’s a lot of groaning and coffee involved
  • their preferred hot beverage on really cold nights. or mornings. or whenever.: coffee for mornings. earl grey the rest of the time. peppermint tea whenever he’s with his siblings. it’s a nostalgia thing.
  • how they like to comfort/care for themselves when they’re in a slump: depends on the kind of slump. usual coping mechanisms involve getting supremely hammered on the fire escape with ygritte or sam but he has been known to curl up on the couch with ghost and toffee pudding watching shit telly.
  • what they wanted to be when they grew up: an mp
  • their favorite kind of weather: sweater weather.
  • thoughts on their singing voice (decent? terrible? soprano? alto?): actually quite decent, though he’s terribly embarrassed to be caught doing it. he’s got a lovely rich baritone.
  • how/what they like to draw or doodle: on paperwork he’s meant to be doing for the watch.

parralex0889 said:

So a friend posed a theory that somehow after the Battle of The Ruby Ford Rhaegar's body wasn't recovered and he floated away and became a priest at that swampy place where people think Sandor is. He cited that there is always focus on the "last" blow Robert dealt him, knocking the rubies off his breastplate but we never find out what happens to his body. So my friend posed that when Rhaegar woke up and found out about Lyanna, Aerys, Elia and the kids, he gave up and is now a priest. Thoughts?

[What happened to Rhaegar’s body?]

Rhaegar was cremated, as is traditional for fallen Targaryens.


Rhaegar is very dead. Thank you.

Also, I couldn’t remember for certain if the Joff showing Marge the Royal Targ bodies in the Great Sept of Baelor is show canon only. And I don’t remember there ever being mention of where Rhaegar was interred.

Show-only canon. (Whose POV would it have been in?) I’m not sure if Targaryen ashes are kept or interred — they’re usually burned outside in funeral pyres, and the ashes may just fly away in the wind or are mixed with the wood ashes. (edit: The Rogue Prince says Jaehaerys I’s ashes were interred with Queen Alysanne’s beneath the Red Keep, but note both died well before the Great Sept was built.)

BTW, ask your friend: there’s no mention of what happened to Aerys’s body either, and there’s always focus on the last blow Jaime gave him. Did he walk away too?

The Beast is in the eye of the beholder

(Piggybacking on this convo from earlier today, I figured now was as good a time as any to post this, as it’s been sitting in my Drafts for a while now…)

I keep thinking about the degree of the Hound’s objective “ugliness”. Is it JUST because of the scars? GRRM himself has said that, without the scars, Sandor would just be kinda “average”. But average is certainly not “ugly”, so we have to assume that at least the un-burned side of Sandor’s face isn’t exactly unpleasant to look at. So, it seems as if most of the people in the ASOIAF world judge Sandor’s looks pretty much just based on the scars; this isn’t the most compassionate race of people, after all. As so many other characters know, even the slightest shortcoming or flaw will be picked at relentlessly. (And we think OUR society is superficial!)

But I think of this in relation, of course, to Sansa, who is also guilty of calling him ugly (though not as “ugly” as Tyrion, apparently) and yet doesn’t seem too bothered by inventing a KISS between them. Indeed, she never seems outright REPULSED by him at all. She considers his scars hideous, yes, but more than anything it’s his rage and his eyes that repel Sansa. If fact, it seems as if THOSE qualities are the real deal-breaker here, not his scars.

But in terms of his overall level of attractiveness despite the scars? Yes, she calls him ugly, but compared to what? Well, this is a girl whose idea of handsome and attractive is guys like Joffrey, Loras, and Renly — the obvious ones. If she lived in our world today, she’d probably be a big fan of Justin Bieber or Zac Efron. Yawn! But as her story evolves, so do her tastes, and she becomes more accepting of those “plainer” fellows; obvious good looks don’t hold much meaning for her anymore. She’s been betrayed by the pretty boys but aided by the ugly ones. So, it’s perfectly reasonable to imagine that Sandor could very well look much like he is depicted on the TV show (though a younger version, obvs), in that he’s not “conventionally” good-looking. I can totally imagine a young girl like Sansa seeing show-Sandor and being like “ehhhh no thanks” — even while the rest of us grown-up ladies are constantly fanning ourselves, heheh — so I can see how show-Sandor would be initially seen as unattractive.

(I’ll even go on record and say that I find Rory McCann pretty “average” looking as well; I doubt I would give him a second look if not for the Hound… Let the mass-unfollowing commence!! LOL #noregrets #yolo)

Case in point: the other day, my mother (who does not watch the show but has seen plenty of my fangirly posts on Facebook) referred to the Hound as “that skanky-looking guy you like”. After getting over my initial shock and cancelling those disownment papers, I realized that her reaction was understandable; if you take him just on looks ALONE, yes, I can see where one might not be terribly impressed. But I know that if she got to know his character, she’d swoon over him just as much as I do! (She’s totally in love with Daryl from “The Walking Dead”, so this would not be a stretch, LOL.) And that’s just the point, isn’t it? Looks alone do not define Sandor Clegane — it’s his actions that endear us to him. Or, at least, what endears Sansa to him.

So, my long-winded point is, I think the show got it right in terms of Sandor’s level of attractiveness, even though the naysayers seem to think the show made him “too fuckable”(?!). Considering the Hound is supposed to be a fierce warrior and at the top of his physical game, there is plenty to find attractive about him in spite of the scars. If he’s not getting laid on a regular basis by anyone other than whores, or if nobody loves him, I am sure that’s due more to the wall of douchebaggery he has built around himself. HE is the one who has allowed his disfigurement to define him. Luckily, Sansa can see through all that, where many people wouldn’t care to even try. That’s what makes her different. And that’s why she is able to look past the scars and see the actual (desirable) person underneath.

As a final note, and I’m sure many of you have already seen this, but here are some pics of the Sandor Clegane bust created several years ago by Valyrian Resin; reportedly, GRRM himself lent his guidance with these creations, and from what I understand he even instructed the artists to make Sandor “more handsome”(!!). So, we can probably safely assume that this comes closest to GRRM’s actual vision of the Hound.



So, yeah, scars aside, not a shabby looking fellow! Not hard for me to imagine Sansa growing to find him appealing, especially after all they have been through together.