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It’s looking pretty likely that, barring Farbuti and Laufey’s lone egg hatching out a perfectly coloured hatchling tomorrow, I’ll be getting a breed change scroll to change the snapper I have that’s just a single shade off into my Loki fandragon once he’s RTB in 6 days. I’ve narrowed it down to a choice of one of the above breeds.

Spiral is what I’d originally been aiming for, but I already have so many spirals and the mate I already bought for him, Angrboda, is a spiral, and while I have a few matched-breed pairs, mostly I prefer to mix them up.

I also really like the rather evil look of skydancers, but that’s the most expensive option (400k!!!) and I already have Liesmith (an almost-Loki dragon) who is a skydancer, so it would kind of be a duplicate.

Pearlcatcher is intriguing. There’s an accent someone made for Pearlcatchers called Snow Globe that’d be a nifty vaguely-Tesseract-like reskin of the pearl (also, hey, frost giants & snow!). On the other hand Pearlcatcher is also the option with the most faded-looking appearance to the black secondary which I’m not very pleased with.

Final option is Guardian. I actually have very few Guardians, just my custom progen and her current mate and their daughter. The wings come out really nice and dark, the body is a bit more dramatically coloured as well, and he also has a rather evil look about him. Though I’m not a big fan of how busy the circuit pattern ends up on male Guardian. But hey, only 50k for the scroll! Plus Guardians are one of the larger breeds iirc, and the mental image of tiny little IronFae flitting around him and harassing him is amusing the hell out of me (I’ve been awake all night, I’m in that easily amused headspace).

Anyway, anyone have any pro/con suggestions to make for the possible choices?

ANGRBODA

SO SHE’S ONE OF LOKI’S WIVES BUT IT’S REALLY MORE ACCURATE TO REFER TO LOKI AS ONE OF ANGRBODA’S HUSBANDS

BECAUSE REASONS ALL RIGHT

AND ANYWAY SHE IS ACTUALLY INTIMIDATING AS HELL AND MILDLY TERRIFYING BUT SUCK IT UP AND TALK TO HER BECAUSE SHE WILL KICK YOUR ASS INTO GEAR

SHE LIKES OFFERINGS OF ENERGY AND SHIT 

LIKE IF YOU DANCE IN HER HONOR OR SOMETHING

OR EXERCISE I DON’T KNOW WHO EXERCISES NOT ME

BUT ALSO DEEDS AND PROMISES ARE PRETTY FUCKING COOL WITH HER

BUT DO NOT FUCKING BREAK YOUR PROMISES TO THE WOLFMOTHER

SHE WILL FUCK YOU THE HELL UP

AND HEY IF YOU’RE BAD AT MEDITATING AND YOUR GOD-RADIO IS BADLY TUNED SHE’LL JUST TAKE OVER YOUR MOTHERFUCKING DREAM

BECAUSE LET’S BE REAL THE HAGIA OF THE IRONWOOD IS PROBABLY MORE BADASS THAN YOUR DREAM ABOUT SWING DANCING

ALSO WHEN SHE’S CALLED THE HAG THAT WORD PROBABLY DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS

SHE’S NOT UGLY OR GNARLY LIKE THAT MAKES HER SOUND IN ENGLISH ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT NOTICE HER ATTRACTIVENESS BECAUSE OF THAT WHOLE THING WHERE SHE’S INTIMIDATING THE FUCKBALLS OUT OF YOU

IT ACTUALLY JUST MEANS SHE’S A SUPER FUCKING POWERFUL WITCH SO WATCH THE FUCK OUT

ANGRBODA RULES THE GODDAMN IRONWOOD AND IF ANYONE SAYS DIFFERENT THEY ARE PROBABLY WRONG

SHE ALSO GAVE BIRTH TO ALL THE CHILDREN OF LOKI THAT THE AESIR DISLIKE MOST

FENRIR THE GIANT WOLF (ALSO BADASS)

HEL THE RULER OF THE DEAD (HALF DEAD HERSELF SO CLEARLY AWESOME)

AND JORMUNGAND THE GIANT FUCKING SERPENT THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WORLD

SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING SHE TOUCHES BECOMES COOL AS FUCK BUT NOT AS COOL AS HER

THE END.

-SIMON (fireandundertow)

Question: The Birth-Mother of Loki's Brood, The Cause of Loki's Ultimate Punishment

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The birth-mother of Fenrir, Hel, and Jormungandr is, for the most part, said to be Angrboda, with Loki as the father.  I disagree with this claim, and believe Loki to be the birth-mother.  There is support for both the former and latter, but that point is not made clear enough in our surviving sources to make a proper conclusion.

The idea of Angrboda as mother of the brood has merit in its simplicity.  Most people assume the female to be the mother, and the male to be the father.  Angrboda is female, Loki is male.  The mother/father is not explicitly stated, so perhaps the simplest explanation should be assumed.

This claim also tends to go hand-in-hand with the assertion that Angrboda is Loki’s mistress or other wife in Jotunheimr, but this seems completely unfounded to me.  There is really no evidence of a relationship having ever existed between the two, or that they even knew one another.  I suppose Loki’s self-professed promiscuity could explain him fathering children with a completely arbitrary woman, but casting Angrboda as Loki’s wife seems to be too lazy an assumption.

The incident on which Loki eats a woman’s heart comes from Hyndluljod, a source more dated than Snorri, in the Poetic Edda; as such, I feel the references therein are more accurate to authentic Norse mythology.  The account is incredibly vague, and all that is revealed is that Loki eats the half-cooked heart of an “evil woman” that he takes from the embers.  He becomes pregnant from this, and gives birth to “the monsters” (flagð).  It is not made clear to which “evil woman” the heart belongs, or to what beings “the monsters” refers.

 “The monsters” may refer to Fenrir, Jormungandr, and Hel – they are indeed the most suited for the title, among Loki’s other offspring.

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These three “monsters” are usually attributed to the union of Angrboda and Loki, so if it is assumed these three are “the monsters”, then it must also be assumed that the heart belonged to Angrboda.  One section of Hyndluljod states that Loki gained the wolf (Fenrir) by Angrboda, which may imply that it was Loki impregnated by Angrboda.

The heart that Loki ate is a mystery all on its own, and its origins should be considered before attributing it to Angrboda.  It came from an “evil woman”, Loki took it from the embers, and it was half-cooked.  The Voluspa, another entry in the Poetic Edda, mentions the Aesir-Vanir war, which came about when an “evil woman” named Gullveig was thrust with spears and burned by the Aesir in Odin’s hall.  We are told she was burnt and reborn three times over, and even that was not enough to destroy her.  Perhaps a half-cooked heart remained, and this was the one Loki ate?  Angrboda’s heart was said to be frozen like the sea spray, so this may be why the heart did not burn when the rest of the body did.  Loki’s reason for eating the heart may have been to prevent further resurrection, which is very similar to Loki’s countless outlandish solutions to unsolvable problems facing the Aesir.

There is a great deal of evidence, although still not fully accepted, that Gullveig and Angrboda are one and the same.  I’ll go into Angrboda/Gullveig/Heid in detail in a later post – I need to answer your question first and foremost, and if I start talking about Angrboda, I’ll never get around to it.  Angrboda is written as Aurboda in Svipdagsmal, which gives the name the exact same meaning as Gullveig.  “Aur” and “Gull” both mean gold, and “boda” and “veig” both refer to a strong alcoholic drink.  From the above, although there is no concrete proof, there is a clear possibility that Loki was impregnated by eating Angrboda’s heart, and thus gave birth to his famous monstrous brood.

It is simplest to assume the female Angrboda as the mother, and the male Loki as the father, but we also have evidence to the contrary.  There is a bit of confusion on this point, and it seems to be intentional.  Angrboda is sometimes called the father, and Loki the mother, and then vice versa.  Perhaps this is intended to call attention to the fact that the parentage is different from what is expected.  Loki’s androgyny is definitely a theme in many of his myths, and Angrboda’s androgyny is also mentioned at one point (An observer cannot decide if Angrboda is a woman, or a man disguised as a woman).  This may be further evidence of their mismatched parental roles.

Furthermore, in Helgakvida Hundingsbane I of the Poetic Edda, two characters are insulting one another by comparing one to Loki, and the other to Angrboda.  The character comparing himself to Loki says to his Angrboda-like opponent that they produced the wolf together, and that he was the father.  The Angrboda companion corrects him, saying that Loki is not the true father, and that he was emasculated by giving birth to the wolf.  If Loki became pregnant by eating Angrboda’s heart, then it was Angrboda’s seed that fertilised Loki, making Angrboda the true father.

So there you go.  We don’t know for sure whether the father is Loki or Angrboda, but I believe it was Angrboda, and there is indeed a good deal of support for this idea.  There is some more evidence, but it requires a lot more explanation, so I might go into it again once I’ve properly explained Angrboda on this blog.

As for Loki’s banishment/getting bound, it was caused by the events of Lokasenna.  For the most part, it seems that the gods bound Loki because they were really angry that he had slandered all of them.  Granted, some of the slander was pretty bad, but a lot of it, if not all, was true.  Loki knew everybody’s dirty little secrets, and when he revealed them all at the Lokasenna, he got into some trouble.  I will write a post on Baldr’s death, and another on Lokasenna as soon as I can – sorry it’s taking so long!  I’m pretty busy with university right now, and my major is Chemistry, which is about as far from Norse mythology as you can get…

 

Hel and the Underworld:

Hel is the daughter of Loki and Angrboda. She was sent to the underworld Helheim by Odin who made her the overseer of the dead. She is described as appearing human on one half of her body, while the other half is mottled representing death. Some texts say that she is bent, hunched, or otherwise haggard.

As heathens, we do not believe in the fiery damnation Christian version of “Hell”. Our “Hel” (only one ‘L’) is a place where we travel to after our bodies pass from Midgard (this earth that we are living on) if we did not die on the battle field. Those who die in battle are chosen by either Odinn or Freyja and are taken to Sessruminer (Freyja’s hall) or Odin’s hall, Valhalla. Hel rules over vast mansions with many servants in her underworld realm. In Baldrs draumar, we learn that Hel had decorated a lavish feasting table when she waited for Baldr to enter her hall.

Hel to us is not a scary place of eternal flames and torment. That being said, we do have a place in our texts referred to as Náströnd. Those who are murderers, oath-breakers, and otherwise corrupt while living, will have an eternity fitting their individual dishonor against humanity and nature.

Those who have lived just, honorable lives will have the chance to stand before a court and be “weighed and measured” for all intents and purposes to determine how they spent their lives, to review their actions while they were living. Our lives will be reviewed, our actions examined, and our fylgia will have the chance to speak on our behalf before the court. We will then be escorted to the places we are to spend our eternity – which could be Helheim or any other hall.

Helgafjell, the “holy mountain” was one idea of the afterlife which appears in West Norse sources. This mountain could be a mountain formation in the vicinity, and it was so sacred that people could not look in its direction without washing their face first. In the holy mountain, the members of the Norse clans would lead lives similar to the ones they had lived in the world of the living. Some psychic people could look into the mountain and what they saw was not intimidating, but instead it was a scene with a warm hearth, drinking and talking.

by Women of Asatru


Additional reading: Ellis, Hilda Roderick. 1968. The Road to Hel: A Study of the Conception of the Dead in Old Norse Literature.


Artwork: maidenbeast.deviantart.com


The Dance at Alder Cove ☽✪☾ Youth/Father/Geezer  I see you

 

The blind prince Helblindi. In the story: Helblindi is Laufeys secondborn child but in the same moment his firstborn with Farbautis sister Angrboda so when Loki is gone he is the crown prince and future king of Jotunheim. He was born blind. But it didn’t matter to him anymore. He has his younger brother Býleistr to be his eyes and light in the darkness. Like mage he is not as tall as other frost giant, but he is still laller then Loki or Thor but not much. Helblindi is very clever and cunning (he would be good friend with Loki ). But also the most calmest of Jotuns. He can speak all Languages in Nine realms, because even though he is blind his mother and later Býleistr read books to him so he learned and memorized everything. He and Býleistr are inseparable. Býleistr is something like his bodyguard XD Helblindi know whole palace and its surroundings so he didn’t need anybody to help him move around. He also lerned how to use his magic in the same manner as a bat uses echolocation. So …no problem there XD He is also an excellent politician and daddys treasure. So.. fear him Odin, fear him XD ( and I want him pair him with Thor…psssst )

Pencil and coffee :D

Comments are welcome

A Day's Work - loki-adicted [Closed]

Angrboda strode into the office, ten minutes late. She was looking a little bedraggled - her was a mess, she had smudged of mud on her face, and even some of her clothing was torn. She came and sat behind her desk all the same. She flicked the switch on her computer before turning to Daina. “Hey, did I miss anything?”

The Next Hagia by feralkin

The artist’s description:
”This is a rough illustration, the complete one will include a background generated in Adobe Illustrator. Vector art is always labour intensive but worth it in the end. 


This is a ‘what if’ scenario based on Norse mythology. I wonder whether Hel would have inherited her mother’s title of Hagia or ‘wise woman’ of the Ironwood. She was taken from Angrboda before she had the chance to find her place within the Ironwood or Jarnvidr. She would have probably ruled the living as well as she does the dead. I see the troll women or giantesses of the Ironwood running a thriving matriarchal society. Here I am depicting Angrboda passing on her title to her daughter. The crown features the Ear rune which is associated with Hel. 

I read on a website (which I will hopefully link you to soon) that Angrboda’s element is ice while Loki’s is fire. Hel’s element is earth. This is reflected in the women’s colouring. Angrboda’s hair is grey not because of old age but because I wanted to give her an ethereal look. She is an amazing mother figure in Norse mythology but she is often overshadowed by her famous lover or shown to be an evil witch. 

I wanted to try giving Hel something other than black to wear and I am quite happy with the warm neutral shades I found. I still want to add ceremonial face paint on both mother and daughter, the red dye in Hel’s hair could be blood (as part of some sort of initiation ceremony).”

 

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